Borrow the Next Breath - cheeseburger?
My 110xp build Mirumoto rank 2 tore apart a rank 5 hida (earth 5 str 5 TNTBH 51) using borrow the next breath and a good initiative roll. The Hida was possessed and couldnt use void therefore limiting use of the rank 2, but had carapce 3 instead. Borrow the next breath managed to turn a strong two attacks worth 50 odd damage into a strong 5 attacks worth 150, enough to kill. Broken?

Has there been a clarification that this kata allows you to spend multiple VP to gain multiple extra attacks? I always interpreted it as allowing you to gain one and only one extra attack per opponent already attacked that round. Still very good for a rank 2/3 kata, but it doesn't let you make 5 attacks per round against the same opponent at IR 2.

Shinjitsu's jobber jabber had me convinced that the section on page 192 referring to void use in Kata only applied to the "void use" section of kata On rereading the section it applies to all of the description of kata (I don't have my book handy for a quote) Thus with borrowing the next breath no matter how many void you spend you can only get one extra attack per opponent Still strong, up to doubling your attacks... but not insane What gets me though is that you can de-activate the kata on your turn... and thus be able to attack. Logic as follows Use borrowing the next breath, next round forced into full attack and cannot attack Start of next action, posture declared = full attack Then kata use= cancel borrow the next breath The restriction no longer applies thus I can attack Heck if you can order the start of turn effects then you might not even be forced into full attack.. but I'm pretty sure postures come first

What gets me though is that you can de-activate the kata on your turn... and thus be able to attack. Logic as follows An old post by Rich Wulf seems to indicate that kata penalties can outlast the duration of the kata, but as with many of Rich Wulf's posts this my not be particularlly helpful or current enough. Here is the old post: Standing on the Heavens is an example of a kata whose penalty outlasts its duration. The rest of the day is the rest of the day whether the kata is on or not.

What text is this? I remember reading something like this, but I do not have my book with me at this time. It says on pg. 192: "Each kata details how Void Points may be spent to affect the mechanics of the kata, if at all. These effects are not cumulative - if a kata says a character may spend a Void Point to roll an additional damage die while using the kata, he may not spend two Void Points to roll two additional dice."

Right, but the Mirumoto is NOT spending multiple void in reaction to the same attack. Each attack is a separate trigger. If this kata resets each round, why can’t it reset after each attack. I attack my opponent. I spend a void to use the kata to get an extra attack. I now made an attack and I trigger the kata again this round. I did not spend two void in reaction to the same trigger. If the Mirumoto can’t use this kata more then once a round, then all kata that require spending of void can only be used once per round and thus a kata that let you spend a void to gain X on an attack could only be used once per round on one attack only. I wasn't arguing that point at all. I was just posting the relevant information when you asked what pg. 192 refered to. I lean personally toward the idea that a character can trigger their kata anytime the kata says it can, because it makes the clause on the Unyielding Fury kata relevant. Unfortunately, even that is sketchy argument because we know techniques like the Hida Bushi Rank 2 can sometimes be funky and throw monkey wrenches into interpretations of the RAW.