Shosuro Duelist?

Shosuro Duelist?
Rank 1: Would they be in full defense when in Iajutsu combat? Rank 4: Can they make this roll to avoid the first strike?

Re: Shosuro Duelist?
Rank 1: Would they be in full defense when in Iajutsu combat? No. Duels are not skirmishes and you do not have a stance in a duel. EVEN if they were on Full Defense. The bonus to their TN to be Hit would not apply in the duel as only 5 + Amror + focus apply your TN to be Hit in a duel. Rank 4: Can they make this roll to avoid the first strike? Yes. It’s bitchy and thanks to the Rank 1 tech giving them +4k4 on the roll, they likely will win it. Remember though if the Shinobi waits to long the opponent is going to get +5 to their strike roll for each time they focused. S usually Rank 4 Shinobi just calls Strike immediately giving the opponent at more 1 focus. Also, if a Rank 2 Shinobi takes Great Potential: Iaijutsu, they get two free raises to Focus (+10 to he roll) which is crazy good.

Thanks, the PC's on Saturday are going to be travelling through Scorpion Lands escorting Ichiro (Kuons kid) to Unicorn Lands. Hijinks are to ensue. I wanted a good Scorpion duelist, cheesy underhanded tactics acceptable... :)

Shosuro Shinobi Rank 2 Great Potential: Iaijutsu Excellent quality Katana (Free Raise all the time) Rank 5 Iaijutsu = +20 to focus rolls. Adding in Shosuro Shinobi Rank 4 is just overkill.

The PC is a rank 5 Kakita Duelist with GP: Iajutsu and 10 Iajutsu. So Rank 4 might not even be overkill.. :)

The PC is a rank 5 Kakita Duelist with GP: Iajutsu and 10 Iajutsu. So Rank 4 might not even be overkill.. :) What is the Kakita’s Void, Agility, and Reflexes? I assume the Shinobi is going to have PH 0.

Re: Shosuro Duelist?
No. Duels are not skirmishes and you do not have a stance in a duel. So 'show me your stance' duels end in an infinite wait time because you can't have a stance in a duel ;)

0? Probably 1. It's awfully hard to stay at zero. He has 5 reflexes, 4 in agility, void I think. The Shinobi would probably have 4,3,3 for his stats. 5 Iajutsu. 5 Stealth. So 8k3+5 for focus's, and 13k8+5 for his stealth roll to avoid.

Re: Shosuro Duelist?
No. Duels are not skirmishes and you do not have a stance in a duel. So 'show me your stance' duels end in an infinite wait time because you can't have a stance in a duel ;) :P Sorry. You do not have a Posture is a duel.

Technically the Shinobi's Rank 4 tech does not work in a duel either, because since it is not a skirmish there are no rounds and the technique can only be used "Once per round"

Technically the Shinobi's Rank 4 tech does not work in a duel either, because since it is not a skirmish there are no rounds and the technique can only be used "Once per round" Ronin Duelist rank 2, Taking the Measure: "Every round spent focusing in a duel..." They're not combat rounds, but there are rounds in a duel. I really wish the RAW would specifically differentiate between the two though. The Ronin Duelist tech obviously should be usable in a duel, the Shinobi tech IMO shouldn't be.

I don't think the "round" thing is intentionaly confusing. You just have to be able to read the writer's mind. :) In context of a duel, "Round" is very intuitive- I focus, you foucus=1 round. But it breaks down because you use the same word that has an exact definition. So when is a round not a round? If a duel does not have a Round (I'll capitalize for the skirmish round) that leaves many schools in the cold when it comes to duels. Was this the intent? Should a non-duelist have a chance of using their techs against a Duelist in a duel? If so, are there any "broken" Schools that unintentionaly crank out better duelists than a Dueling school?

If so, are there any "broken" Schools that unintentionaly crank out better duelists than a Dueling school? Without calling anything "broken", there are *many* Techniques that give benefits and advantages that are more useful in a duel than what the Kakita Bushi get from their School. I used to rule that any Tech that didn't specifically say it could be used in a duel couldn't be - I've reconsidered this because there are a number I feel should be available that wouldn't be with that ruling, but it was effective in a crude way.

Technically the Shinobi's Rank 4 tech does not work in a duel either, because since it is not a skirmish there are no rounds and the technique can only be used "Once per round" Ronin Duelist rank 2, Taking the Measure: "Every round spent focusing in a duel..." They're not combat rounds, but there are rounds in a duel. I really wish the RAW would specifically differentiate between the two though. The Ronin Duelist tech obviously should be usable in a duel, the Shinobi tech IMO shouldn't be.I guess that additional attacks should be allowed in a duel as well since they have the same stipulation "you may make an additional attack per round." Unless otherwise specified(as the Ronin duelist specifies that they are rounds spent focusing in a duel) we need to assume that whenever the word round is mentioned it refers to "The Combat Round."

So are you saying that after some mook says "Strike" in a duel the striker gets his full # of attacks, then the loser gets to go? So even if the Miromote aren't inherent dueling machines, you do NOT want to lose that iaijutsu roll to those guys...

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