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Cooper- 12-27-2006

I am guessing you mean "burn the soul", "burn the mind" is a rank 3 fire spell that confuses people. ;) So I did. Thank you, good catch!

Doji Tsukaede- 12-28-2006

Which raises the question... can the one enemy count as 2 targets? You could choose his top half as one target, and his bottom half as the second... as long as you can see both targets..... 'nuff said. No.

shinjosentinel- 12-29-2006

I'm not enitrely sure on this, from the intent of the wording i would say yes. But since target is not actually defined and it is covered how the spell affects inanimate targets there is nothing to say I can't pick my enemies right arm for one target, his left arm for another, and his hat for a third. ANd another thing, I don't see how people seem to see an extra unkept die on the casting roll (mastery level benefit) as the ability to hit a higher target. Mathmatically a unkept die is very uncertain but it perhaps adds a =5 to the overall roll, that really dones't make a large difference.

Doji Tsukaede- 12-29-2006

I'm not enitrely sure on this, from the intent of the wording i would say yes. But since target is not actually defined and it is covered how the spell affects inanimate targets there is nothing to say I can't pick my enemies right arm for one target, his left arm for another, and his hat for a third. Correct. There is also nothing that says my Bushi cannot cast spells. There is only the rule that shugenja CAN cast spells. Omission of text does not mean that the omission is true. The rules tell you what you can do instead of what you cannot do. There is no rule that says two targets can target the same character in different hit locations. If you DID allow it, then since the “target” takes the damage, you now need to know how many wounds that hit location has and that location would take hit damage and NOT the character (since the character was not the target) leading to the possibility that limb could be destroyed yet leaving the character with no damage from wound points. If you are going to let hit locations be legal targets, you need to also only make THEM take damage and not the characters wound levels. ANd another thing, I don't see how people seem to see an extra unkept die on the casting roll (mastery level benefit) as the ability to hit a higher target. Mathmatically a unkept die is very uncertain but it perhaps adds a =5 to the overall roll, that really dones't make a large difference. I agree, even if an unkept die only add about +3 to your roll. ;)

Togashi Shinjitsu- 12-30-2006

Good. That solves that, but does "additional target" preclude selecting the same target again? Does it mean additional and separate? Or just an extra helpin' of fiery doom? If you are able to conjure multiple balls of fire, why can't you direct them at an enemy an additional time?

Doji Tsukaede- 01-02-2007

Good. That solves that, but does "additional target" preclude selecting the same target again? I'd say yes because you do not simply get a second attack with your spell, you hit an additional target. Hitting the same target twice is only hitting one target and not an additional target. If you are able to conjure multiple balls of fire, why can't you direct them at an enemy an additional time? The spells say “additional target” and not “you may direct a second ball of fiery doom”. If they INSTEAD said you go a second ball / attack, then yes, both could be directed against the same target, but they do not. In short, the listed raises for additional target is NOT the same as raises for additional attacks. *** Also, none of this would weaken the Asahina anyway. Do you really want the Asahina hitting the same target 3 times for 10k10?

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